Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for(Part-5)

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for(Part-5)

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for so that is the next thing to understand and they lived in the moment they lived in the present they were not 

so concerned about trying to tell people how to be making people move towards success and 

so on no none of those things they said if you can live your life with awareness if you can live your life through singing the own beauty of your song through the meditative consciousness of yourself then you'll find the higher reaches of your mind then you'll find the higher reaches of your soul and then you'll find the joy that is infinite and what else matters that, in essence, is the entirety 
you can see that Rabindranath and Vivekananda were both very ancient established in the old ancient acres of the mystic search but at the same time men of the future people who were immensely dynamic who look to the future who looked to newness who looked to youthfulness as defining all things now on earth you should talk about existence itself as being very youthful ever in a creative state 

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for so the idea of God in Robin rods poetry songs as thousands of songs it's of a constantly creative God an ageless card, not an old guard a youthful fresh god, in fact, Robin Ranaut was against ideas of religion that was contemporary during his time he felt that religions were repressive you see he never quite spoke up against religions as such but it was his whole vision which was eloquent enough to speak out against it, he had a new vision for the man he said that religions have created a split in people in humanity religions are forces of the division between man and men they are bondage the real ways the mystical way where you transcend institutionalized aspects of religion now Vivekananda on the other hand because he worked within the domain of religion, for example, he went to the true Chicago for the world Parliament of Religions he was working in an in the religious domain 

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for so his idea was to catalyze the confluence of religions at that level he was working Rabindranath was free from that level because he was never in that domain as such he was not a theologian he was not a person who belongs to any particular school of thoughts neither was he evade anthem as reveille Quran was you see Vivekananda also carried a legacy he carried he carried the responsibility of the entire lineage of Vedanta over thousands of years 

so Rivka none really had that on his shoulders he had to he had to speak from that pulpit he had to speak from the pulpit of religion Raman Watts pulpit was the pulpit of nature he's was looking at the world as one entire commune which is to become intoxicated with higher truth higher beauty and 

so on so the wine of Rabindranath Tagore is freely available to through the medium of the Arts with Vivekananda it would not be right to call it wine at all you can call it elixir you can call it nectar he was distributing nectar Rabindranath sway was one almost of a divine intoxication a divine madness with the sheer beauty and wonderment of life the way currents way was of kindling lights within people 

so that they can go thousands of miles on their own pathway through the power of that self torch as Gautam Buddha says a Buddha Popova and him was it's about kindling the light within yourself and Vivekananda was helping people Kindle their lights and he believed in institutions now it's very interesting that they both created institutions of very different kinds Rabindranath, of course, founded miss Parvati at Shantiniketan the University and the University naturally because it went into the hands of the government it just became an absolute nonsensical representation of what Robin Ranaut stands for the visual beauty of today has nothing to do with robbing or not to Gore, it is just an ordinary institution Bengal which really is not truly representative of the confluence that he talked about it is ridiculous it is absolutely a betrayal of his entire vision of expanded consciousness it has become an ordinary academic place even the arts in bits about the academic even the dances are academic they're 

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for so academic that the spirit of the thing is missing the dignity of the thing is missing each professor is guarding their own domain you see Rabindranath got caught up in this entire problem which is the inevitable bane of academia in our country it gets caught up in governmental morasses it gets caught up in academic politics and there's nothing worse than politics in academia now Vivekananda, on the other hand, created an institution the Ramakrishna

mission and because the Ramakrishna mission is really based upon a Vedantic essence it is still by far and large far better run than most institutions than most religious institutions and in a way because its mandate is not entirely religious it is also about social service more than religion it is also about the idea of India the seeds are two form of Indian spirituality and disseminating those seeds of mysticism within the world which is why it has remained more relevant with a V a bit sober tea for example but at the same time Dharma the Ramakrishna mission does not totally do justice to the idea as a free Ramakrishna, for example, Sri Ramakrishna was not 

so interested in sending his monks out to do service for others no his idea was more akin in that way to what Rabindranath was talking about what Rabindranath has exemplified through his songs and music and 

so on it's about divine intoxication it's about going deep into the mystic search and not about institutions at all 

so you know where these are inter interwoven sort of a narrative you see it's interesting how Robin Renaud songs often carry more of the spirit of ram Krishna then the Ramakrishna mission monks will ever be able to tell you about Sri Ramakrishna it's very interesting 
I personally find more of Ram Krishna in Ravindra Nights works then you can find in the tombs and tombs of literature that the Ram Krishna machine monks keep churning out or they'd rather theological lectures which are steeped in a morass of Sanskrit eyes Dargan you see it's very easy to use to dig up a lexicon of Sanskrit words and and to do you know to have a lexicon of Vedanta for example and keep talking about different big words which relate to Vedanta it's very rich in that manner but the roots the spirit is not there as much as you can find in a simple song of Rabindranath Tagore that carries the ecstasy that carries the sheer beauty of Sri Ramakrishna's mystical message 

so really it's the blossoming of bliss which is the sensual thing now of course Vivekananda's life was cut short you see you could say his most productive years might have been ahead of him he was a religious man who was 

so young when he passed away while religion is a domain which people really excel at it's become famous for in later years now there are beret Shion's, for example, Jesus of Nazareth is an aberration he died at 33 was crucified at 33 similarly Adi Shankaracharya died very young and we waken and comes from that lineage he comes from that similar sort of you know the impressionability at a very young age which is a very rare thing in the domain of religion Robin NORAD world and her fame actually started much later in his later life his world fame did not really start till a later stage of his life but then it flowered and flourished to the extent that he became arguably one of the most famous people of his entire lifetime within the world and he could explore bound he could explore poetry could explore music without boundaries because of his travels you see 

so he's considered almost a personification of a Zen monk in Japan in Japan he was revered till he actually went and attacked the aggressive political policies of Japan for example their invasion of Manchuria their military accesses their misinterpretation of the Bushido Code of the samurai when they became an aggressive country 

so he lost his credibility in Japan in China similarly he'd become immensely popular in fact I have a friend in China is English they're things that he's a missing Englishman he tells me that stray birds is the highest-selling book after Chairman Mao's little red book you see naturally mouths book is compulsory it sells most and stray Birds is immensely popular 

so who would have thought that Rabindranath would make such an impression in communist China as well 

so that's the thing about Rabindranath he doesn't talk about any ideology as such he doesn't talk about any political ideology it's such and that keeps him immensely pure 

so Robin Nuna transcends ideologies be their religious ideologies be they political ideologies and 

so on his only ideology if at all is that of beauty perception of beauty in that way he is more akin to the Taoist masters like throngs ooh and loud say he's more akin to the Japanese Zen poets like Barcia who's very concern is with beauty who's very concern is with the light within the world that sacred light was just scattering on every blade of grass on every dewdrop on every leaf and petal 

so that is the real poetry and Rabindranath lived his life as if it was poetry Vivekananda was a much tougher life in that way we waken and chose the way of complete abstinence now he never abstained from many things for example he had alcohol he used to smoke a cigar but his life was incredibly disciplined not even while he was smoking for example he would smoke what was with him but he would not carry the smokes around to see 

so his was the way of the monk where you accept what you get but you do not hanker about the tomorrow you're not worried about the tomorrow you're almost like that Jane Mooney who's absolutely gives no thought to the model you accept in week shy you accept us as a beggar monk you accept aims to call himself a beggar monk you accept whatever comes you and you you you make use of partake of it what is offered to you but like a river you flow on you move on and you don't let that water stick you see a reverse water keeps moving if you put your leg into the river the water doesn't same what it doesn't cross you twice it's freshwaters and that is the way of the monk 

so certain ideas certain ideas about monkhood were carried within Vivekananda which differentiates him entirely from Rabindranath Tagore's whose ways of utter freedom from all dogma from all moral disciplines and 

so on we recommend is to say that his only real moral discipline is that of Brahma Chhabria if the bow of Brahmacari was non-negotiable to him everything else was alright his master gave him the permission to eat meat and 

so on because of Shri Ramakrishna knew that Vivekananda would be teaching in a Western milieu he had foreseen it and he realized that for the vacant and to be an effective teacher he must free him from these small barns for example if he had insisted on drama of awaken and telling vegetarian it would not have been possible for awaken and perhaps to survive very difficult days in the West when eating anything become difficult for him but he could survive because he was not bound down by very very strict monastic vows yes it was the one way of Brahmacari of abstinence from the sexual acts which kept him completely absolutely and utterly individually unique you see I have never encountered a person who's absolutely 

so deeply in relationships of different sorts with women with Western women in in that particular age an Indian man in that particular age who is literally deified by them but at the same time the affection is that of a sister the affection is that of a mother he commanded that kind of affection his order was such that nobody would even look at him with the eyes of a lover now Rabindranath fur on the other hand used to have a lot of romantic admirer around him it's arguable it's debatable about what he indulged in what he didn't indulgent it doesn't even matter because his life was so pristine it was 

so pure so dynamic and the creative strain of his life was 

so dominating and powerful that hardly ever thought would move on to that you see apart from a few perverted mindsets who insist on Rabindra not a moral downfall and so on which is an absolute road load of rubbish because they're not able to see into the depths of the man they're not able to see into the vastness of the man 

so Rabindra does not sway we can see in a nutshell is about rejoicing in life rejoice the more you rejoice the more come to you and share your rejoicing with others that is the only thing you can share your downs share song through that is service to others Viveca ins is a more concrete sort of service he says look at everyone as if they are not I and look at everyone as if they are caught and through doing that you come into a very service oriented relationship with others you are constantly trying to be of value to each to others 

Spiritual Secrets- Rabindranath vs Vivekananda You Should Care for so he the whole tradition of ramakrishna mission is how they can be of value to society how they can be of value to society at large and that way that's the way of the Bodhisattva where you are not completely concerned about your liberation but you are also concerned about taking others onto liberation you're helping others that's the way of the Bodhisattva the way of our hat is self-liberation self bliss and 

so on so in a way Robin or nothing simplifies the way of the Arts and ultimately there's no difference the art is also a Buddha the Bodhisattva is also a puta it's just that the parts are a little different the Bliss is the same it's just a question of whether one is celebrating one's own expression one's own beauty of expression or one is more concerned about making others celebrate that but there again it's not like a line written stone it's more like a line written water, for example, Rabindranath used to say that even if all his teachings go if all his works go his essay is everything goes his songs will remain 

so the crystallization of ramen rods message his through his creative works his songs mainly his poetry on the second day and the crystallization of rabiner awakens work his true encapsulation of all of the old ancient Vedanta concepts in a new modern form which continues through the Ramakrishna mission and 

so on so and of course, is seminal books like Raja yoga bhakti yoga

so what Vivekananda could do was that he could crystallize this entire massive mass of learning from different philosophies of India beat Vedanta beat Sankhya beat bhakti beat Roger yoga and so on and crystallized

them into an understandable accessible form for the first time you had somebody doing that in a modern idiom and that became very important because Hinduism is like an ocean to so vast 

so what Vivekananda could do was he who take that water from that ocean called Hinduism and he could distill it into the purity of form and him that distilled water is what has kept Hinduism going and has what has kept that stream of the highest philosophical thoughts in Hinduism alive which is Vedanta in a way which is sang here in a way Raja yoga bhakti yoga these are the distilled versions of his entire learning here he had an absolutely encyclopedic grasp of all subjects most subjects to the extent that he's written and then the New York Medical Journal you see he's written about science there 

so he's a great reservoir of ideas beyond belief precocious minded and he distal to distill that not only in a mystical way but in a scholarly way in a theological way also 

so his work has theological merit with Rabindranath, of course, the search is for bliss the search is for beauty 

so he never really encapsulates those truths in a particular the jargon a particular language of religion no he couches it in the language of poetry in the language of dance in the language of reality that that is his religion that that is the entirety of his mystic message 

so in a way the way cons approaches a little more scientific it is a little more it is a little more academically more differentiated it is bringing together concrete ideas about different philosophies Robin Reynolds is almost like the fragrance of the flower you see you can't define the fragrance it is a subtle thing but nonetheless, it exists 

so the fragrance has no color it just has a feeling of smell you can't quit define it it's not like Ravi bacon is like the fruit you can you can measure the dimensions of the fruit you can taste it you can describe its taste and 

so on we make our opinion ours is more like the fragrance of the flower it's difficult to bottle it's difficult to productize it's difficult to define but it's there nonetheless 

so it's very interesting this entire Robin earth versus the vehicle and and it's not versus so much it is putting them in juxtaposition 

so that we can understand the entirety of mysticism as such and that is the most important thing that keeps these two characters eternally interesting and that keeps the relationship they're very the personification of higher truths Oh interesting you