1983-0526-Public-Program-Brighton-UK-DP
1983-0526-Public-Program-Brighton-UK-DP
Sri
Ramakrishna
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Today
it's such a pleasure to be here again, in Brighton; and, slowly and
steadily, I find Sahaja Yoga is settling down in this place. hope that one day they will be able to come to reality.
And in the morning, I talked to Sahaja Yogis about His great incarnation, and how He came on this earth and He got His realization, and then how He tried to spread the message of realizations to others.
Many people believe and think that Christ was an atheist … Buddha was an atheist, while Christ was a person, a believer in God.
And some people prefer Buddha to Jesus Christ.
It's something very amazing is that … that when people are born in particular circumstances, they have to talk about things which are very, very important at that point in time.
At the time when Buddha came on this earth in India, we had too many ritualisms of Brahmanism and conditioning of the teachings of those money-makers and commercializes who wanted to make money in the name of God and in the name of religion.
So, to neutralize all that, He decided not to talk at all, at all about God, about any particular religious ways, but He said that you keep to the.
To He, it was very important that one should get Self-realization.
And that's what He wanted to give us a message and divert the attention of the people from the idea of God or incarnation — for the time being — because He wanted to show that Self-realization is very important and that without Self-realization you cannot understand God or Divine Power. So He was not an atheist.
He and Christ, I would say, we're in a way contemporary, but Christ came later, and Buddha came about five hundred years before Christ.
They are so much related to each other, so much close to each other, so much identified with each other, as if they are part and parcel of one being.
That only you can understand when you get your Self-realization.
Christ has said: “Those who are not against Me are with Me.”
Who are “those”, who are not against Him? Because we have no knowledge as to real the origin of Christ, from where He came, what was His origin, how He was created in heaven, how He is the Son of God.
Whatever we see today as a person who came on this earth to teach us about His father, God Almighty, we just believe in that part, which is a...
Only two persons realized it; they got out of it.
But even today if you see the Zen, which was nothing but dhyana, the meditation, Sahaja, spontaneous awakening — is reduced to the same level as any other preaching.
I met the head of the Zen system.
He was very sick, and they brought him to Me because of he wanted to be cured.
And I was amazed that not that he was a realized soul, not at all a realized soul — but his Kundalini, which is the force which is going to give him realization was all frozen.
And he had no desire to become self-realized.
I talked to him, I was amazed.”
That's the name of the university, as I told you yesterday in Lewes, is the name of the university is Kashyap: those
And in the morning, I talked to Sahaja Yogis about His great incarnation, and how He came on this earth and He got His realization, and then how He tried to spread the message of realizations to others.
Many people believe and think that Christ was an atheist … Buddha was an atheist, while Christ was a person, a believer in God.
And some people prefer Buddha to Jesus Christ.
It's something very amazing is that … that when people are born in particular circumstances, they have to talk about things which are very, very important at that point in time.
At the time when Buddha came on this earth in India, we had too many ritualisms of Brahmanism and conditioning of the teachings of those money-makers and commercializes who wanted to make money in the name of God and in the name of religion.
So, to neutralize all that, He decided not to talk at all, at all about God, about any particular religious ways, but He said that you keep to the.
To He, it was very important that one should get Self-realization.
And that's what He wanted to give us a message and divert the attention of the people from the idea of God or incarnation — for the time being — because He wanted to show that Self-realization is very important and that without Self-realization you cannot understand God or Divine Power. So He was not an atheist.
He and Christ, I would say, we're in a way contemporary, but Christ came later, and Buddha came about five hundred years before Christ.
They are so much related to each other, so much close to each other, so much identified with each other, as if they are part and parcel of one being.
That only you can understand when you get your Self-realization.
Christ has said: “Those who are not against Me are with Me.”
Who are “those”, who are not against Him? Because we have no knowledge as to real the origin of Christ, from where He came, what was His origin, how He was created in heaven, how He is the Son of God.
Whatever we see today as a person who came on this earth to teach us about His father, God Almighty, we just believe in that part, which is a...
Only two persons realized it; they got out of it.
But even today if you see the Zen, which was nothing but dhyana, the meditation, Sahaja, spontaneous awakening — is reduced to the same level as any other preaching.
I met the head of the Zen system.
He was very sick, and they brought him to Me because of he wanted to be cured.
And I was amazed that not that he was a realized soul, not at all a realized soul — but his Kundalini, which is the force which is going to give him realization was all frozen.
And he had no desire to become self-realized.
I talked to him, I was amazed.”
That's the name of the university, as I told you yesterday in Lewes, is the name of the university is Kashyap: those
Sri
Ramakrishna
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from
the sixth to the eighth century, in two hundred years, there were
only twenty-six Kashyap as, after that there were none.
And I don't hope to be one.”
I said, “Why not?” So with that, he doomed all the hopes of all the people to become Zen, to become a person who knows, the person who is a realized soul.
Even Bible you can't understand, you can't understand Gita, you can't understand anything unless and until you are a realized soul.
Tao is the all-pervading Divine Power. Power of love.
When He talked about it, He explained about it, and He started another group of people, who were to be given realization... Everything becomes “ism” — means “imprisoned”.
It's not living, it's not there, it's just a thought of Tao people read.
He's not even a realized soul.
What is writing? I was just wondering, with his blind eyes, what is he describing, what colors can he describe? So you must know that you have to be self-realized first.
Then see for yourself.
Then you will know whether there is a spirit or not, then you will know whether there are roots to this tree that has grown outside, then you will know where there is God or not.
Then you will know what these incarnations have any meaning or not.
Just before that just to sit down and criticize is not a sensible thing.
This is the place where our ego is attached, and He is the one who really controls our ego.
So this Buddha also is such a part and parcel, is to be understood only after you have got realization.
Without that, you are still incomplete.
You are not that by which you will know.
And where is the spirit within us? The spirit lies in our heart and is the reflection of God Almighty. ”.
The one who sees what we are doing, who is the witness of what we are doing.
But He is not in our attention.
That gentleman wants to come, please come. He is not in our attention.
And if He is not in our attention, we do not know how to connect ourselves with Him to have a rapport with Him, to understand Him. That's why first this spirit has to be brought in our own attention.
That's the most important thing, and because this is not with us, we are still incomplete, we make mistakes. .
He's telling Me about Christ, I really must laugh at it.
But supposing tomorrow Christ comes and stands before you; will you be able to recognize Him, or will you crucify Him again? How will you recognize Him? How will you recognize Buddha? It's very easy to, you see, to represent Christ, it's very easy because they think that, after all, you see,
And I don't hope to be one.”
I said, “Why not?” So with that, he doomed all the hopes of all the people to become Zen, to become a person who knows, the person who is a realized soul.
Even Bible you can't understand, you can't understand Gita, you can't understand anything unless and until you are a realized soul.
Tao is the all-pervading Divine Power. Power of love.
When He talked about it, He explained about it, and He started another group of people, who were to be given realization... Everything becomes “ism” — means “imprisoned”.
It's not living, it's not there, it's just a thought of Tao people read.
He's not even a realized soul.
What is writing? I was just wondering, with his blind eyes, what is he describing, what colors can he describe? So you must know that you have to be self-realized first.
Then see for yourself.
Then you will know whether there is a spirit or not, then you will know whether there are roots to this tree that has grown outside, then you will know where there is God or not.
Then you will know what these incarnations have any meaning or not.
Just before that just to sit down and criticize is not a sensible thing.
This is the place where our ego is attached, and He is the one who really controls our ego.
So this Buddha also is such a part and parcel, is to be understood only after you have got realization.
Without that, you are still incomplete.
You are not that by which you will know.
And where is the spirit within us? The spirit lies in our heart and is the reflection of God Almighty. ”.
The one who sees what we are doing, who is the witness of what we are doing.
But He is not in our attention.
That gentleman wants to come, please come. He is not in our attention.
And if He is not in our attention, we do not know how to connect ourselves with Him to have a rapport with Him, to understand Him. That's why first this spirit has to be brought in our own attention.
That's the most important thing, and because this is not with us, we are still incomplete, we make mistakes. .
He's telling Me about Christ, I really must laugh at it.
But supposing tomorrow Christ comes and stands before you; will you be able to recognize Him, or will you crucify Him again? How will you recognize Him? How will you recognize Buddha? It's very easy to, you see, to represent Christ, it's very easy because they think that, after all, you see,
Sri
Ramakrishna
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Everybody
has a right to do what they like. Even Hitler talked of God, can you
imagine? Hitler talked of God! But first of all, you must know that no
use deceiving ourselves, we have to get our Self-realization.
We have to know ourselves first of all.
Now, Buddha's attitude towards His attainment was that He was actually touched by the miseries of the world.
He saw a person who was sick.
He saw a man who was dead.
He saw an old man.
That takes too much time because you have to go on neutralizing: “Not this, not this, not wife, not children, not family…” You go on negating, negating, negating; all your lives you go on, one after another.
It doesn't work out. us within ourselves — that first, we look after ourselves, find out about ourselves. Have we realized souls? Are we Buddhas? Are we the people who know? Let us be honest.
Then we have to know.
Now, what is the way to know is the point.
Now, if I say that you will know — in your evolutionary process.
But there's a little different as to what has happened so far and what is going to happen later on.
Nature worked it out, the nature within us, the central force of evolution within us has brought us to this position that from amoeba today we are human beings.
But at this stage, when we are human beings, to go further, there's a special mechanism.
Now, once the instrument is just ready, we have to just plug this one to the mains, and it's done.
As if you are made to be ready to be plugged to the all-pervading Power; and by some special, spontaneous method done by the living force within us, we have to be plugged to the mains.
But the difference between a human
We have to know ourselves first of all.
Now, Buddha's attitude towards His attainment was that He was actually touched by the miseries of the world.
He saw a person who was sick.
He saw a man who was dead.
He saw an old man.
That takes too much time because you have to go on neutralizing: “Not this, not this, not wife, not children, not family…” You go on negating, negating, negating; all your lives you go on, one after another.
It doesn't work out. us within ourselves — that first, we look after ourselves, find out about ourselves. Have we realized souls? Are we Buddhas? Are we the people who know? Let us be honest.
Then we have to know.
Now, what is the way to know is the point.
Now, if I say that you will know — in your evolutionary process.
But there's a little different as to what has happened so far and what is going to happen later on.
Nature worked it out, the nature within us, the central force of evolution within us has brought us to this position that from amoeba today we are human beings.
But at this stage, when we are human beings, to go further, there's a special mechanism.
Now, once the instrument is just ready, we have to just plug this one to the mains, and it's done.
As if you are made to be ready to be plugged to the all-pervading Power; and by some special, spontaneous method done by the living force within us, we have to be plugged to the mains.
But the difference between a human
being
and other animals is this that human beings were given their freedom.
At the stage of, say, Adam and Eve, if people would not have gone too far with their freedom, it would have been much easier to give realization to people at that time.
And that's how, when they started using their freedom, they had to do things which were wrong, which were anti-life, which were anti-evolution, without realizing what they were doing...
Then another thing they tried, it was like an error being corrected.
Then they corrected it. That's how human beings have been trying, experimenting with this, experimenting with that; and then they come to a point where they say, “Given up now, it's too much.”
That's the best point, I think, as Buddha had reached; He was so tired, lying down under a banyan tree — and He got His realization.
So now I am here before you to tell you what is the mechanism.
That would be wrong on My part and wrong on your part because you're free, you are free, not to accept or to accept.
At the stage of, say, Adam and Eve, if people would not have gone too far with their freedom, it would have been much easier to give realization to people at that time.
And that's how, when they started using their freedom, they had to do things which were wrong, which were anti-life, which were anti-evolution, without realizing what they were doing...
Then another thing they tried, it was like an error being corrected.
Then they corrected it. That's how human beings have been trying, experimenting with this, experimenting with that; and then they come to a point where they say, “Given up now, it's too much.”
That's the best point, I think, as Buddha had reached; He was so tired, lying down under a banyan tree — and He got His realization.
So now I am here before you to tell you what is the mechanism.
That would be wrong on My part and wrong on your part because you're free, you are free, not to accept or to accept.
Sri
Ramakrishna
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which
I am telling you about.
About the roots, about which you do not know.
You know only about the tree, but I want to tell you about the roots.
The best thing would be, first and foremost, to be able to enter into the roots.
But you cannot! As the human mind is, it wants to know everything about everything first of all.
But see, here, if you have to enter into this room and there is no light, somebody tells you, “All right, press that button and you get all the lights.”
And you do it! It's all built-in there, it's just there.
But if somebody starts telling, “All right, I'll tell you there is something called electricity.
and that's how there was a committee was formed” — and the whole history about the Sussex electrical system. ”
It's like that.
So, if I have to tell you the whole history, it will be too much.
The best thing would be to press the button, see the light, enjoy it, and then you can know about it if you want to know. If you want to! It is just like that.
The knowledge of the roots is greater than the knowledge of the tree.
is like the Sanskrit language.
But still, I'll try to explain to you a few things that lie within ourselves.
But by listening to that, I want to tell you, you cannot get your realization.
It's a happening that has to take place within you.
Unless and until this happens takes place, you cannot get your realization.
And it's happening which is to be experienced by you, not by Me.
It is to be felt by you, and by this happening you have to feel your own powers, your own glory, and your own purpose.
So far, we do not know the purpose of human life, why human beings were created from the amoeba stage.
But then you know what is the purpose of this life. I'm sure they must have told you something about Kundalini. Jason, did you tell them? Not much? YOGI: Very little, Mother.
SHRI MATAJI: Eh? YOGI: Very little, Mother. SHRI MATAJI: What's he saying? YOGI: That he [UNCLEAR] is very little. SHRI MATAJI: All right.
So now here I would like to tell you something about it, which you should take as a hypothesis just now and try to understand. It's not very difficult, to begin with.
And later on, as soon as you get your realization, it's the easiest thing to do.
We have within ourselves seven centers, placed in our medulla oblongata and in the brain.
The first one lies below the triangular bone, which is called the sacrum, and it's called the Mooladhara center, which means “the support of the roots”.
It is the support of the roots.
And this center embodies our innocence. Now, the second one is the one that emerges from the third one, which is called the Nabhi Chakra, the third one; and the one that emerges from that is the second one, called the Swadishthana.
If there are doctors here, they'll understand what I'm talking about.
Now, if you go further, the Nabhi Chakra manifests outside what we call the solar plexus.
Above that is the center that we call the Heart center, Anahata Chakra, cardiac center, which manifests outside the cardiac plexus.
And it has got, again, the left and right side.
About the roots, about which you do not know.
You know only about the tree, but I want to tell you about the roots.
The best thing would be, first and foremost, to be able to enter into the roots.
But you cannot! As the human mind is, it wants to know everything about everything first of all.
But see, here, if you have to enter into this room and there is no light, somebody tells you, “All right, press that button and you get all the lights.”
And you do it! It's all built-in there, it's just there.
But if somebody starts telling, “All right, I'll tell you there is something called electricity.
and that's how there was a committee was formed” — and the whole history about the Sussex electrical system. ”
It's like that.
So, if I have to tell you the whole history, it will be too much.
The best thing would be to press the button, see the light, enjoy it, and then you can know about it if you want to know. If you want to! It is just like that.
The knowledge of the roots is greater than the knowledge of the tree.
is like the Sanskrit language.
But still, I'll try to explain to you a few things that lie within ourselves.
But by listening to that, I want to tell you, you cannot get your realization.
It's a happening that has to take place within you.
Unless and until this happens takes place, you cannot get your realization.
And it's happening which is to be experienced by you, not by Me.
It is to be felt by you, and by this happening you have to feel your own powers, your own glory, and your own purpose.
So far, we do not know the purpose of human life, why human beings were created from the amoeba stage.
But then you know what is the purpose of this life. I'm sure they must have told you something about Kundalini. Jason, did you tell them? Not much? YOGI: Very little, Mother.
SHRI MATAJI: Eh? YOGI: Very little, Mother. SHRI MATAJI: What's he saying? YOGI: That he [UNCLEAR] is very little. SHRI MATAJI: All right.
So now here I would like to tell you something about it, which you should take as a hypothesis just now and try to understand. It's not very difficult, to begin with.
And later on, as soon as you get your realization, it's the easiest thing to do.
We have within ourselves seven centers, placed in our medulla oblongata and in the brain.
The first one lies below the triangular bone, which is called the sacrum, and it's called the Mooladhara center, which means “the support of the roots”.
It is the support of the roots.
And this center embodies our innocence. Now, the second one is the one that emerges from the third one, which is called the Nabhi Chakra, the third one; and the one that emerges from that is the second one, called the Swadishthana.
If there are doctors here, they'll understand what I'm talking about.
Now, if you go further, the Nabhi Chakra manifests outside what we call the solar plexus.
Above that is the center that we call the Heart center, Anahata Chakra, cardiac center, which manifests outside the cardiac plexus.
And it has got, again, the left and right side.
Sri
Ramakrishna
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