Introduction to Sri Ramakrishna- the most superior Avatar | Jay Lakhani |
Introduction to Sri Ramakrishna- the most superior Avatar | Jay Lakhani |
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Introduction to Sri Ramakrishna- the most superior Avatar | Jay Lakhani |
Jaybhai,
Apart from people in Bengal, hardly anyone know Shree Ramkrishna
Paramhamsa, why in your opinion he is an important personality to
study and why did Swami Vivekananda call him Avtar Varisthay- Best of
Avatars?
Avatar Varisthay- you see in fact I asked myself
how come this great master a great modern spiritual master of India remains unknown in India apart from people in Bengal rest of India Perhaps have not even heard the name Shri Ramakrishna there are
so many other personalities where people talk about modern persons but Shree Ramakrishna is hardly ever mentioned,
why? why is this person ignored?
why Ramakrishna not been given full the recognition he deserves and
I answer is this you see this man did not go out to promote a sectarian movement you require a sectarian moving to promote yourself, he was not bothered.
another ordinary people only like magic and miracles and this man was not interested in promoting any magic or miracles Hindus say we can't relate to him.
the third the reason is this if you notice Most of
the modern personality-well known in India are those people who give boons, you worship me and
I sort out all your problems, just come and sit at my feet and me sort you out you can ask for your health issues, your wealth issues or social,
I sort everything for you.
This is the standard way modern personalities promote themselves, for the ordinary man this is what they are interested in.
they aren't interested in anything higher, they want their material status to be preserved they health to be preserved,
the social standing to be preserved so this was they are interested, in
so this Ramkrishna doesn't appear at all interesting that is another reason and
the most the cutting thing that you said is this
how come this Vivekananda, a very sober sensible individual, calls him Avatar Varisthay?
Avatar Varisthay- that means the most superior of Avatar, you say he is nothing like Rama and Krishna and Buddha?
then how come he calls him Avatar Varisthay?
people say this is too much, he is exaggerating he loves Ramkrishna
so much, he exaggerating, he is going over the top.
To the contrary let me tell you Swami Vivekanand a great master, modern master said there is no way
I can do justice to what Ramkrishna stands for you know what he said he said I'm not fit to tie his shoelaces that is
the grandeur of this man, in fact, he would hardly talk about Shri Ramakrishna Shri Ramakrishna, his teacher in his lectures he said the reason is very simple,
I will not do justice to him.
so even the great Vivekananda recognize the dignity and
the great power that flowed in this personality and he was shy to talk about him because he will do injustice to him.
this is a reality in fact at one time in
the USA, when giving a talk about this master suddenly stopped halfway and said no, I'm going away, I won't finish the talk.
why? why?
He said I look at the audience and I could see there is no way they can relate to there is no way they can relate to the purity, the specialty of this personality so I was wasting my time
so I switch off so this great Vivekananda why did he call him Avatar Varisthay?
great Vivekananda why did he call him Avatar Varisthay?
let me tell you it is very important, you see even you look at all
the previous Avatars they are wonderful, we love them you know
the Rama and Krishna and Buddha, we love all these Avatars, we relate to them still and nothing wrong with it but what happens is this over thousands of years the stories that go along with Rama and
Avatar Varisthay- you see in fact I asked myself
how come this great master a great modern spiritual master of India remains unknown in India apart from people in Bengal rest of India Perhaps have not even heard the name Shri Ramakrishna there are
so many other personalities where people talk about modern persons but Shree Ramakrishna is hardly ever mentioned,
why? why is this person ignored?
why Ramakrishna not been given full the recognition he deserves and
I answer is this you see this man did not go out to promote a sectarian movement you require a sectarian moving to promote yourself, he was not bothered.
another ordinary people only like magic and miracles and this man was not interested in promoting any magic or miracles Hindus say we can't relate to him.
the third the reason is this if you notice Most of
the modern personality-well known in India are those people who give boons, you worship me and
I sort out all your problems, just come and sit at my feet and me sort you out you can ask for your health issues, your wealth issues or social,
I sort everything for you.
This is the standard way modern personalities promote themselves, for the ordinary man this is what they are interested in.
they aren't interested in anything higher, they want their material status to be preserved they health to be preserved,
the social standing to be preserved so this was they are interested, in
so this Ramkrishna doesn't appear at all interesting that is another reason and
the most the cutting thing that you said is this
how come this Vivekananda, a very sober sensible individual, calls him Avatar Varisthay?
Avatar Varisthay- that means the most superior of Avatar, you say he is nothing like Rama and Krishna and Buddha?
then how come he calls him Avatar Varisthay?
people say this is too much, he is exaggerating he loves Ramkrishna
so much, he exaggerating, he is going over the top.
To the contrary let me tell you Swami Vivekanand a great master, modern master said there is no way
I can do justice to what Ramkrishna stands for you know what he said he said I'm not fit to tie his shoelaces that is
the grandeur of this man, in fact, he would hardly talk about Shri Ramakrishna Shri Ramakrishna, his teacher in his lectures he said the reason is very simple,
I will not do justice to him.
so even the great Vivekananda recognize the dignity and
the great power that flowed in this personality and he was shy to talk about him because he will do injustice to him.
this is a reality in fact at one time in
the USA, when giving a talk about this master suddenly stopped halfway and said no, I'm going away, I won't finish the talk.
why? why?
He said I look at the audience and I could see there is no way they can relate to there is no way they can relate to the purity, the specialty of this personality so I was wasting my time
so I switch off so this great Vivekananda why did he call him Avatar Varisthay?
great Vivekananda why did he call him Avatar Varisthay?
let me tell you it is very important, you see even you look at all
the previous Avatars they are wonderful, we love them you know
the Rama and Krishna and Buddha, we love all these Avatars, we relate to them still and nothing wrong with it but what happens is this over thousands of years the stories that go along with Rama and
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Krishna
etc have been polished up they've been given extremely pure pristine
colors
so we think they have four arms and you know shankh(conch) and chakra and Gada(mace) and all that's
how we view Avatars
so we lost track of the real human side of Avatar an Avatar,
I am telling you that when Ram was going in the foreign wearing silk clothes, who's going to do his laundry there, he was wearing you know leather, you know skins and you say
I can't show Ram like that and Sita like that and we polished it up to such an extent we can't relate to an ordinary person as a spiritual giant ordinary person is spiritual giant unless they come with this external glamour we can't relate to them this is the weakness of the Hindus,
so they're stuck, and you know why Vivekananda was
so worked up, you see the previous Avatars really talked about a message suitable for the Indian subcontinent for India for Hindus, this one is a real giant
the message he gives not only for India, Hindus.
it is international, universal, genuine every religion say we are universal here is a man who's giving you free like a rubber stamp to the universality of
the deeper the vision that comes from our tradition this is the modern vision, if you like the most contemporary vision of spirituality seen in India, it is not just meant for
the Hindus of India, it is meant for the greater world.
that is why this Vivekananda, a sober man had no choice but to say Avatar Varisthay, this is the first avatar that is if you like- truly international.
His message goes through, and cuts across all the religious boundaries as well as all
the social and cultural boundaries this is a very universal message very dynamic and yet because you know not doing magic and miracle, he will not fulfill your boons.
suppose you say oh I pray to you please make sure
I get more money he will give nothing test him out nothing you can uh 'then
the only you even get from this out there is that you said I want to be spiritual awakening you say yes and you're on
the right place anything else you ask from him
so Oh more wealth and health and DC The USA get lost it's a reality
so this is why this avatar is the most potent the most contemporary vision of his spirituality
the most a comprehensive vision of spirituality that came out of his modern attire in fact Luber when Vivekananda was asked he said if anything good has come out of this lips this is from your canal he said to give all the credit to my master Ramakrishna
I am just actually just you know offering there is toppings mic off all said we were gonna see
how much respect and love here
so he could easily claim this wrong this Ramakrishna is our third over each time and I fully agree with that the more
I studied is Ramakrishna message the more and thrilled I see though if you like
the versatility of this lovely message that the case comes out for this individual so
I'm going one because I love this man as well even practiced Christianity and Islam and said they lead to the same destination
how can this be true as their perception of Spiritual Living is was be different from
the Hindu country yes like heaven and hell in contrast to reincarnation, you see one of the features of our sin our person is the first of all the reason why
I love another quite a comprehensive vision Hinduism every other to promote say rationalism or shag ISM a Cetera this individual came first of all to see it is a reconciliation between different pathways the Hindus Hindus have adopted to make spiritual progress
so he tried west no tradition you try the shower tradition the Schachter tradition he tried
so we think they have four arms and you know shankh(conch) and chakra and Gada(mace) and all that's
how we view Avatars
so we lost track of the real human side of Avatar an Avatar,
I am telling you that when Ram was going in the foreign wearing silk clothes, who's going to do his laundry there, he was wearing you know leather, you know skins and you say
I can't show Ram like that and Sita like that and we polished it up to such an extent we can't relate to an ordinary person as a spiritual giant ordinary person is spiritual giant unless they come with this external glamour we can't relate to them this is the weakness of the Hindus,
so they're stuck, and you know why Vivekananda was
so worked up, you see the previous Avatars really talked about a message suitable for the Indian subcontinent for India for Hindus, this one is a real giant
the message he gives not only for India, Hindus.
it is international, universal, genuine every religion say we are universal here is a man who's giving you free like a rubber stamp to the universality of
the deeper the vision that comes from our tradition this is the modern vision, if you like the most contemporary vision of spirituality seen in India, it is not just meant for
the Hindus of India, it is meant for the greater world.
that is why this Vivekananda, a sober man had no choice but to say Avatar Varisthay, this is the first avatar that is if you like- truly international.
His message goes through, and cuts across all the religious boundaries as well as all
the social and cultural boundaries this is a very universal message very dynamic and yet because you know not doing magic and miracle, he will not fulfill your boons.
suppose you say oh I pray to you please make sure
I get more money he will give nothing test him out nothing you can uh 'then
the only you even get from this out there is that you said I want to be spiritual awakening you say yes and you're on
the right place anything else you ask from him
so Oh more wealth and health and DC The USA get lost it's a reality
so this is why this avatar is the most potent the most contemporary vision of his spirituality
the most a comprehensive vision of spirituality that came out of his modern attire in fact Luber when Vivekananda was asked he said if anything good has come out of this lips this is from your canal he said to give all the credit to my master Ramakrishna
I am just actually just you know offering there is toppings mic off all said we were gonna see
how much respect and love here
so he could easily claim this wrong this Ramakrishna is our third over each time and I fully agree with that the more
I studied is Ramakrishna message the more and thrilled I see though if you like
the versatility of this lovely message that the case comes out for this individual so
I'm going one because I love this man as well even practiced Christianity and Islam and said they lead to the same destination
how can this be true as their perception of Spiritual Living is was be different from
the Hindu country yes like heaven and hell in contrast to reincarnation, you see one of the features of our sin our person is the first of all the reason why
I love another quite a comprehensive vision Hinduism every other to promote say rationalism or shag ISM a Cetera this individual came first of all to see it is a reconciliation between different pathways the Hindus Hindus have adopted to make spiritual progress
so he tried west no tradition you try the shower tradition the Schachter tradition he tried
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every the aspect of every different path was making spiritual progress within
Hinduism and the wonderful thing is he is such a powerful dynamic
the personality he was successful in every pathway tried
so he said all these pathways lead to the same destination
so far so good only the reconciled the Hindu vision he said no he's greedy fellow he said no
I want to see if this perception that I have water on the ultimate reality can be checked out using other religious traditions and this is a fantastic thing first time an individual not able to verify various Hindu movements and reconcile them around try various religions and
the two Regency tried out is Christianity and Islam these are the two major religions he said let me try Christianity see if it takes I to that same destination let me try East no
Islam as well when he takes me to
the same destination and he succeeded and he says you said an ultimate reality that
I experienced is saying whether I'm using Christianity Islam or Hindu and you bring in the moments now people say miss Lakhani but it is a bit weird because you see the the theology of Christianity or
Islam is this - life scenario this life and the never occur you know everlasting life has in heaven or hell
so how can this man be reincarnation or induce offenses are same then the universe that they are saying he said they lead me to the same destination but
how can you really slack on
how do you reconcile this all reconcile if a person is genuinely spiritually oriented he will basically, talk about the spiritual experience he heads
the doctrine centers around that spiritual experience are kind of produced by the fuel the audience, not by the master the theologians get around and say oh this is what he meant
so even this idea of - life scenario you've seen Christianity or something that grinding promote but
the theologians who is kind of one of the fathers of Christianity said ok do the best way to keep our flock inlines don't jump they don't see too
the friends are careful either heaven or hell carrotastic sir Leslie plug it in
so the theologians in all the Abrahamic traditions you know put in their own were shown regarding
the spiritual experience with their master the master samurai right Ram question has tried out and it works but
the theory that goes around with this various kind of religions are seriously flawed
I'm saying it bluntly flowed you need in certain Hindu moment, some of
the theory that goes with it is flawed and yet the masters who can over they
so Rama Raju Acharya or so from Karachi our dearest destination is the same that is why this wonderful reconciliation we see with Shri Ramakrishna use dignity and acceptability to all world tradition rolling Hindu traditions in a genuine manner he said
the personality he was successful in every pathway tried
so he said all these pathways lead to the same destination
so far so good only the reconciled the Hindu vision he said no he's greedy fellow he said no
I want to see if this perception that I have water on the ultimate reality can be checked out using other religious traditions and this is a fantastic thing first time an individual not able to verify various Hindu movements and reconcile them around try various religions and
the two Regency tried out is Christianity and Islam these are the two major religions he said let me try Christianity see if it takes I to that same destination let me try East no
Islam as well when he takes me to
the same destination and he succeeded and he says you said an ultimate reality that
I experienced is saying whether I'm using Christianity Islam or Hindu and you bring in the moments now people say miss Lakhani but it is a bit weird because you see the the theology of Christianity or
Islam is this - life scenario this life and the never occur you know everlasting life has in heaven or hell
so how can this man be reincarnation or induce offenses are same then the universe that they are saying he said they lead me to the same destination but
how can you really slack on
how do you reconcile this all reconcile if a person is genuinely spiritually oriented he will basically, talk about the spiritual experience he heads
the doctrine centers around that spiritual experience are kind of produced by the fuel the audience, not by the master the theologians get around and say oh this is what he meant
so even this idea of - life scenario you've seen Christianity or something that grinding promote but
the theologians who is kind of one of the fathers of Christianity said ok do the best way to keep our flock inlines don't jump they don't see too
the friends are careful either heaven or hell carrotastic sir Leslie plug it in
so the theologians in all the Abrahamic traditions you know put in their own were shown regarding
the spiritual experience with their master the master samurai right Ram question has tried out and it works but
the theory that goes around with this various kind of religions are seriously flawed
I'm saying it bluntly flowed you need in certain Hindu moment, some of
the theory that goes with it is flawed and yet the masters who can over they
so Rama Raju Acharya or so from Karachi our dearest destination is the same that is why this wonderful reconciliation we see with Shri Ramakrishna use dignity and acceptability to all world tradition rolling Hindu traditions in a genuine manner he said
I see
the same fine at the final level
I see the same destination you see because when
I took our pluralism is any way to be raised to be spiritual including many different religious pathways people some silicon
how do you know because maybe this is called relativism is anything goes you're promoting anything goes we never said that because
the destination is the same who says it and it had smoke no one the individual in the history of humanity there's only one individual who claims not just because you read a book negotiating their theology he's actually experienced at
the final level that he reaches when he uses any of the pathways in the same come on like one kind of challenge they're
I see the same destination you see because when
I took our pluralism is any way to be raised to be spiritual including many different religious pathways people some silicon
how do you know because maybe this is called relativism is anything goes you're promoting anything goes we never said that because
the destination is the same who says it and it had smoke no one the individual in the history of humanity there's only one individual who claims not just because you read a book negotiating their theology he's actually experienced at
the final level that he reaches when he uses any of the pathways in the same come on like one kind of challenge they're
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throwing
my face is this we could use this example in pluralism saying that
is like climbing up
the mountain using different pathways so Christian it goes one way up Islam goes
the other way up you do some both other ways up so that say maybe is climb using different pathways to go to the top of the mountain but the challenge
I get and love this kind of challenges from atheist and from people who dragged at me this is like honey
how do you know is the same mountain they're climbing maybe they're climbing different mountains was the proof it's very serious challenging
the only proof only ways to the same the mountain is this one man in the history manatee say the same mountain is Ramakrishna suite in a way gives Rama stem to the idea of pluralism no other no
the profit engine or mode and come anywhere near comes anywhere near killing this side wonderful way of reconciling various religious pathways of Hindus as well as other pathways used by other prophets the first person in the history of humanity that's why
I told you you say me without an average tie
so how can we be sure that we are going on the same mountain or different mountains different world no we can unless you become around
the question you can verify it the only thing the only person was given this rubber stamp is
the same mountain is Ram Krishna because theologically or intellect you can say no they're different models
how do you know this thing we're talking a different thing altogether but
the only a person who can say no no same mountain I'm telling you even though they say this is the scenario destination is the same is this Ramakrishna once you said that when you go higher and you see a people of other traditions and you feel an affinity with them cannot approve yes that's the proof wonderful thing is this
I said it is one of these Christian meeting they said, mister
I can tell us about Florence and myself one of the beautiful kind of examples I can use this is no travel with me a little tickler
I say the particular an example is this subunit circle you are trying to reach
the center and you know when you compare our directions are we reaching the center all the direction are different you think this means relativism anything goes all of us will have a different direction to follow to reach the center even though were using different compasses different ways to reach
the center the result is going to be the same Center but he's happy to be sure and one of the beautiful things
I just made up for self of one I said if you are sincere about your own tradition and progress to
the towards Center promoted by your tradition and somebody next to you is also using his own prescription a different direction to reach the center as you get closer to the center somehow by natural we feel an affinity for each other we don't feel
I know it is using a different angle we just feel comfortable with it just come closer together as we reach
the center well if you move away from the center we are at loggerheads with people sitting next to us, this is the proof of in a veil w of saying this is an intellectual gymnastic to such as
the same destination but the Ramakrishna is not intellect or gymnastic is an experience in genuine experience playlist or as a non-cry so that viewer can view on YouTube can we do a shorter version of what Ram Krishna is all about why we need to study his life and tastings indeed you see
I mean because I'm stuck with around Krishna somebody said did Ramakrishna find you did you find wrong Krishna I said actually he found me and he
the mountain using different pathways so Christian it goes one way up Islam goes
the other way up you do some both other ways up so that say maybe is climb using different pathways to go to the top of the mountain but the challenge
I get and love this kind of challenges from atheist and from people who dragged at me this is like honey
how do you know is the same mountain they're climbing maybe they're climbing different mountains was the proof it's very serious challenging
the only proof only ways to the same the mountain is this one man in the history manatee say the same mountain is Ramakrishna suite in a way gives Rama stem to the idea of pluralism no other no
the profit engine or mode and come anywhere near comes anywhere near killing this side wonderful way of reconciling various religious pathways of Hindus as well as other pathways used by other prophets the first person in the history of humanity that's why
I told you you say me without an average tie
so how can we be sure that we are going on the same mountain or different mountains different world no we can unless you become around
the question you can verify it the only thing the only person was given this rubber stamp is
the same mountain is Ram Krishna because theologically or intellect you can say no they're different models
how do you know this thing we're talking a different thing altogether but
the only a person who can say no no same mountain I'm telling you even though they say this is the scenario destination is the same is this Ramakrishna once you said that when you go higher and you see a people of other traditions and you feel an affinity with them cannot approve yes that's the proof wonderful thing is this
I said it is one of these Christian meeting they said, mister
I can tell us about Florence and myself one of the beautiful kind of examples I can use this is no travel with me a little tickler
I say the particular an example is this subunit circle you are trying to reach
the center and you know when you compare our directions are we reaching the center all the direction are different you think this means relativism anything goes all of us will have a different direction to follow to reach the center even though were using different compasses different ways to reach
the center the result is going to be the same Center but he's happy to be sure and one of the beautiful things
I just made up for self of one I said if you are sincere about your own tradition and progress to
the towards Center promoted by your tradition and somebody next to you is also using his own prescription a different direction to reach the center as you get closer to the center somehow by natural we feel an affinity for each other we don't feel
I know it is using a different angle we just feel comfortable with it just come closer together as we reach
the center well if you move away from the center we are at loggerheads with people sitting next to us, this is the proof of in a veil w of saying this is an intellectual gymnastic to such as
the same destination but the Ramakrishna is not intellect or gymnastic is an experience in genuine experience playlist or as a non-cry so that viewer can view on YouTube can we do a shorter version of what Ram Krishna is all about why we need to study his life and tastings indeed you see
I mean because I'm stuck with around Krishna somebody said did Ramakrishna find you did you find wrong Krishna I said actually he found me and he
Sri Ramkrishna doesn't appear at all interesting that is another reason and
the most the cutting thing that you said is this
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